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When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: 76 |
What goes around, comes around. Read it and weep: | |
The 70th anniversary wasn't noticed in the United States + was barely reported in the corporate media. But the Germans remembered well that fateful day seventy years ago - February 27, 1933. They commemorated the anniversary by joining in demonstrations for peace that mobilized citizens all across the world. |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: 3 |
Great read. Only problem is that I don't know all the details of that time period. Anybody know any sources that this could be used to verify all of this article? (Without pointing me to the authors books.) |
"sources" | Current rating: 0 |
Try your nearest library. |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: 3 |
This is some scary shit. The author is right, and the scariest part about it all is that we're letting it happen. |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: -2 |
I am scared shitless. Bush is the new Hitler! |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: 7 |
First of all: YO! this orange Times font on black is unreadable.. serious.. I work all day & night in front of computer .. and while this is good looking, i myself, literally can't read it without problems focusing.. |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: 0 |
Hmmm, "simplistic, inflammatory rhetoric". I suggest anyone who's really interested read the actual text of Time Magazine "hailing" Hitler as Man of the Year in 1938. https://www.time.com/time/special/moy/1938.html. There are some interesting parallels all right, just a little different. "gangsterism" "covertly aiding revolutionary movements" "invading neighbors", rearming in violation of Treaty, killing political enemies, showing appeasement to be a policy that made larger war inevitable. and of course the author's observations about Hitler and corporations don't seem to jive with what was being said at the time. I'm not a big fan of Dubya's economic policy but I'm pretty sure no one's ever accused him of what Time says about Hitler's. Just the opposite actually. |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: 3 |
The idea that those who don't study hitory are doomed to repeat it is an ignorant idea. I hope this writer realizes that. Also, he's playing off the idea so many of us have burned in our heads that hitler/nazis=BAD (not that i'm arguing that idea). This writer is trying to use our emotions and stir up all the revulsion we have for the nazi regime and redirect some of that rancor toward the Bush administration. The things that made Hitler's rule so repulsive were not his use of catchy phrases during his speaches, or his abiliity to stir up patrtiotism and support, or even his military actions + this writer knows it. Regardless of the similarites he's drawn, it does no, nor will it ever equate our situation with that of the nazis. If this writer wishes to make a point regarding about President Bush or his administration, I suggest he stop hidding behind the horrors of Nazi Germany and just make them. He's doing exactly what he points a finger at Hitler for doing, stirring up support via the manipulation of emotions. From him though, it's not rallying, it's just disgusting. |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: -2 |
the pretense of our leading a military coalition through iraq is based solely on its natural resources---oil, and lots of it. that, too, was the only reason for our bombing afghanistan--to get in and establish military installations to make way for the caspian oil line...which will go directly across afghanistan. this is a dirty political was fueled by greed, and the love of all that oil... don't forget how the bushes made their millions---it was. in fact, OIL. bush is not being truthful or straightforward about his motives for this war.. if his lips are moving, he is lying. i will not let his pious demeanor trick me into believing his motives are pure of heart...they aren't. just look into his beady little eyes--they, too, tell a story. |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: 0 |
there was a type error in my e-mail address. itsmebeckyg (at) yahoo.com is the correct address. i apologize for the error. |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: 0 |
It's fun to use a history lesson to attack a leader you dislike. Fun, but very foolish. Hitler is the cliche of the times, if you don't like the leader of the country, call them Hitler. It affects those with small minds and the pseudo-intellectuals. Now, I'm hoping you aren't either one of these types. Perhaps you're a conspiracy theorist who thinks Bush and Ashcroft are trying to take complete control of the government? If that is so, then you could also enlighten us about how JFK was shot by aliens. |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: 3 |
It's fun to use a history lesson to attack a leader you dislike. Fun, but very foolish. Hitler is the cliche of the times, if you don't like the leader of the country, call them Hitler. It affects those with small minds and the pseudo-intellectuals. Now, I'm hoping you aren't either one of these types. Perhaps you're a conspiracy theorist who thinks Bush and Ashcroft are trying to take complete control of the government? If that is so, then you could also enlighten us about how JFK was shot by aliens. |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: 3 |
I agree with a previous comment that many leaders in the past have been called "Hitlers" to destroy their credibility and instill hatred of them. Bush does actually have many similarities in common with Hitler though. The only difference is that Bush does not appear to be insane, just thick headed. Iraq is our checkoslovakia it appears...the thorn in our side that has mocked us for ages. This has become somewhat of a rant, but I just wanted to get across the point that I think (along with Europe) that Bush is the most Hitleristic leader the world has seen since the fall of that regime. If I was more informed about the details of the Napoleanic war I might compare Bush to Napoleon instead, but it is late and I haven't time for that. Attempting to use ingrained hatred to support or tear down the war is unjust, but I guess if both sides do it, all will equal out in the end... |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: 0 |
how true is that...beautiful stuff man. i hadn't ever heard about this coincidence, so i just want to say great job. |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: 0 |
I like it |
I Think They Missed The Point | Current rating: 8 |
In the above comments others have stated that it is disgusting and simplistic to draw comparisons between Hitler and Bush + that beliveng those who do not understand history are doomed to repeat is somehow ignorant.I think they missed the point. I'm pretty sure the author of the artical had no intentions of stirring up anti-Bush hatred or ignite revolution opposing war.(A contradiction in itself) Rather, I belive the author meant to portray the ease with which a corrupt government may radicalize and control its populace in the event of a tragic disaster in which the people feel less secure. Sadly, we continue to ignore the cycle of fear-anger-hatred-violence that will perpetuate unless we oppose it in all guises. May peace yet prevail |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: -1 |
I'm so horrified right now i feel like crying. It's 2:30 in the morning, I'm drunk + I've just been wathcing the football game that is NBC's coverage of Operation: Iraqi Freedom, and I literally feel like I'm participating in a historical atrocity. Revolution of some sort is something I'm contemplating. Something must be done. |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: 0 |
i read that text from time.com. i found it very interesting that all of it was written after 1938 and they had no actual lines from the original article. i would like to see what it actually said. i bet that they changed it to look like they weren't praising him at the time. |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: 3 |
People here are missing the point of the article a bit, which is not to paint Bush as Hitler, but to draw parallels in the courses of events -- essentially saying, "look what happened in Germany, look what's happening now; if the current course is allowed to be followed in America, here's what could happen." Human rights are already disappearing, in the name of "national security". How far will it go? |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: 0 |
hahaha |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: -1 |
I totally support our troops, they are doing what they were told to do, they were indoctrinated into the thinking that war is the answer. I however believe that our current leader is the antichrist, leading the world to destruction. |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: -1 |
You all shall soon see how oppressed the Iraqi people are, how few of them were hurt by us + how threatening Saddam was to the world. |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: 0 |
Not bad, since more than superficial similarities abound, e.g. legitimacy based on a failed middle class and German monopoly capital - hitler was merely the mediation between the two. |
Re: When Democracy Failed: The warnings of history | Current rating: 0 |
For a good history, written at the time, try to locate/read a copy of "Fascism in Germany" by Leon Trotsky. |